As if Elizabeth Fawthrop’s and Veryl Pow’s comments weren’t insane enough in the article I posted yesterday, they have actually one-upped themselves in the comment thread on the UW Daily website. And it’s not just them, but other people who sympathize with them as well.
After posting my criticism of Fawthrop’s claim about Gates “leading” the military, a person who calls themselves “ewb” wrote:
Your definition of what it means to lead is very narrow. While the generals you mentioned may directly oversee the invasions in Iraq and Afghanistan, this in no way excuses Robert Gates from the role he has played in promoting these wars.
So, is Gates leading or promoting the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan? I’m confused. Anyway, let’s move on…
Gates is obviously a leader of these wars, and is implicated in them just as much, if not more so because of his position of power, as the generals.
Do you realize what “ewb” just wrote? Not only does he or she believe that Gates is complicit in the deaths of Iraqi civilians and American soldiers, but that Generals like George Casey and David Petraeus are as well. That level of lunacy can only be found in Code Pink and MoveOn.org-type circles; “Pink” with their berating of Donald Rumsfeld a few weeks ago, calling him a “war criminal,” and MoveOn with their “General Betray Us” ads from 2007.
Here’s more from commenter “hakalo”:
How can you draw a distinction between starting wars and perpetuating wars? The fact stands that Gates is implicated in these wars, regardless of whether he was the SoD when they started or not.
Which means that Obama is also implicated in these wars, right? I’ll post a response to that question if I get one.
Moving on, when a fellow CR, Holland Avery, pointed out that Gates was speaking for free (Democracy Insurgent has been oustpoken against current UW budget cuts), “hakalo” wrote this:
There is a ton of security involved with bringing Gates to Husky stadium. The UWPD specifically will be pulling on a lot of its resources to provide security. Gates’ visit is not free in any sense of the term.
How ridiculously petty is that? Robert Gates is the Secretary of Defense of the United States of America. Of course he needs to have security! Grow up.
Finally, Veryl Pow himself chimed in:
On Gates and the Budget Cuts, the campus is undergoing increased militarization as many other programs and workers are getting cut.
Remember his evidence for that claim? Yeah, it was the fact that one CIA Officer is currently acting as a visiting researcher on campus. Great point, Veryl.
More:
By speaking here, Gates isn’t raising money for students of color who will no longer be able to afford tuition under the 28% hikes over the next two years. It isn’t going to the anti-racist, anti-patriarchal organizations like the Women’s Center which is facing devastating cuts. He isn’t saving the jobs of the 17 custodians, most of whom are immigrant workers, who have already been laid off.
First of all, notice how Pow infused the matter of race into his comment, pointing out that “students of color” won’t be able to afford tuition? His comments on race get worse later in his comment, but I just think it’s interesting that Pow somehow thinks that every white person who goes to the UW is going to be able to afford these tuition hikes.
Secondly, Pow’s line of argument here is silly. Of course Gates won’t be raising money or saving custodial jobs by speaking at the seniors’ graduation ceremony. But guess what? Neither will any other speaker who comes to the UW! Pow’s point adds nothing to his argument, and serves to make him seem even more loony.
Pow continues:
Instead, that Gates is speaking for free represents the broader trend of militarization of campus, along with agent Tim Thomas, who is paid for by the CIA and the UW gets money for hosting him.
Merriam-Webster’s definition of broad: “Extending far and wide.”
Merriam-Webster’s definition of trend: “To show a tendency.”
Again, Pow’s evidence for the broader trend of the militarization of the UW? One CIA researcher and a speech being given by the SecDef of the U.S.
Here’s where Pow’s comments on race get really outlandish:
The only way people of color can get access to the university is through joining the army reserve.
Riiiight.
So Nick/Holland, take your racist chauvinism somewhere else before claiming we are incapable of rational thought. Ya our peoples have heard that from white folks for centuries now, and just because we have a different conception of freedom (because we are denied those white privileges of yours under this ‘democracy’), don’t make our struggle worthless or irrational.
Amazing, isn’t it? That is the far-Left for you, ladies and gentlemen. If you disagree with anything they say or do, you’re labeled a racist, a chauvinist, or a host of other things. It’s quite sad.

American hero, Veryl Pow