Obama: America a Superpower “Whether We Like It or Not”

I wish I could say this is a shock, but this is a man who once said: “I believe in American exceptionalism, just as I suspect that the Brits believe in British exceptionalism, and the Greeks believe in Greek exceptionalism.”

From Fox News:

In a little-noticed remark at the close of the two-day nuclear security summit in Washington, D.C., this week, President Obama suggested the United States is somehow burdened by its military might — a comment that drew a stern rebuke from his former rival in the presidential campaign.

Obama was responding to a question Tuesday about how the summit would play into peace-making efforts in the Middle East when he addressed the downsides of — by virtue of America’s world stature — being obligated to intervene in international conflicts.

“It is a vital national security interest of the United States to reduce these conflicts because whether we like it or not, we remain a dominant military superpower, and when conflicts break out, one way or another we get pulled into them,” Obama said. “And that ends up costing us significantly in terms of both blood and treasure.”

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Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., slammed the leader of the free world Thursday, calling the remark a “direct contradiction to everything America believes in.”

Here’s the video:

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8 Responses to Obama: America a Superpower “Whether We Like It or Not”

  1. Bill says:

    Sounds to me like a man that is unwilling to believe that just because America is America it is necessarily better or more exceptional than the rest of the world. Thank God we no longer have a leader who sees it as his duty to spread his own idea of what the world should be.

    And being a global superpower isn’t always a good thing, either. It is preferable to being a zero, but it certainly does have its downfalls.

    Please.

    • Nick says:

      There would be a far greater amount of evil in the world without America. So yes, we are exceptional. For our president not to recognize that is sad.

      And btw, Bill. George W. Bush did more for the people of Africa than any other president in U.S. history. He was an incredibly decent man, and one who thought he was doing the right thing (as did a majority of Americans and Dems in Congress) by bringing democracy to Afghanistan and Iraq.

      • Bill says:

        Hate to say it, but there is a lot of evil in this world with America. Note: funding of leaders like Pinochet, torture in secret prisons (granted, it could probably be worse), displacement of citizens around the world for American corporate interests.

        I would like to know what Bush did in Africa. Also, we went into Afghanistan to catch Osama and those responsible for 9/11, and we went into Iraq to find non-existent WMDs. “Bringing democracy” was an afterthought… which could be why we are failing so miserably at it.

      • Nick says:

        Torture of terrorists in secret prisons (you have no proof, btw) is evil, if true? You really consider that to be an act of evil by America?

        And there’s no doubt we’ve made mistakes as a country, but the world would be a FAR worse place with us not in it. But that’s a fundamental difference between liberals and conservatives. You don’t believe that. I do.

        Bush saved millions of lives in Africa. http://bit.ly/9LTkJE (and that 60 minutes video doesn’t even talk about his malaria prevention initiatives)

        Yes, we did go into Afghanistan with the intention to catch Osama. That didn’t happen, but we DID capture and kill many of those involved in 9/11.

        As far as Iraq, *everyone* thought Saddam had WMD’s. Everyone. So you can sit back now and try to score political points b/c we didn’t find any, but we legitimately thought he had them.

        And really? We’re failing at bringing democracy to the Iraqi people? Is that why they just had another successful election?

  2. Bill says:

    We know waterboarding has gone on, and we know tapes of interrogations have been purposely covered up or destroyed by the CIA (that was frontpage NYT today).

    I do think the United States has done a lot of good. I just don’t think you can sweepingly look at only the good and not the bad. And that is not a fundamental difference between us. Liberals would agree the US has done a lot of good, be it in the World Wars or even just as recently getting rid of Saddam.

    And I don’t think Bush is evil, at all. I was not aware of his efforts in Africa. Although I wouldn’t praise him, necessarily, as being a global philanthropist is essentially the job of every American President, I won’t hold anything from him

    Afghanistan — true. Iraq — true, because reports were incorrect and in the opinion of many — falsified. If the CIA is telling the public they had WMDs, people are going to believe it. We trust our government — especially in a time of war. Now, whether the reports were true were a different story.

    But let’s get back to the reason I brought up Iraq and Afghanistan in the first place. The reasons we engaged were not to spread democracy, but rather because there was a threat. And we’ve failed thus far; both countries have had (definitely in Afghanistan, rumored in Iraq) fraud in their recent elections.

    Phew.

    • Nick says:

      Ah yes, but a) I don’t consider waterboarding torture, b) We only waterboarded three terrorists, and c) I honestly don’t think most Liberals truly care if we waterboard terrorists. I really don’t. I think instead, your side has used the whole debate to score political points. Deep down Bill, you really don’t care that the architect of 9/11 got water poured on his face and in his mouth to simulate drowning. And if you DO, then you should be just as outraged about the waterboarding that is done as part of training to our Navy Seals.

      I’m glad you think we’ve done a lot of good. And I freely admitted to you we’ve made mistakes in our past. There’s no doubt about that. My overall point is that there’d be a lot more evil and a lot less good in the world if the United States did not exist.

      I’m also glad you don’t see Bush as evil, as many on your side do. Bush was a terrible communicator, that’s why more people don’t know about what he’s done for the African people. It’s really a shame. You might find this an interesting read: http://bit.ly/biW6b3 (“Geldof and Bush: Diary From the Road”)

      And it wasn’t just the CIA telling the government that Saddam had nukes. Multiple intelligence agencies around the world believed he had them as well, as did the Clinton administration. They made their belief that he had them explicitly clear, in fact.

      I agree with you that the number one reason we engaged was because we thought Saddam was a threat. That’s true. However, it’s not the only reason we invaded.

      And of course there’s going to be fraud in the elections! We have fraud in OUR elections, for crying out loud!

  3. Bill says:

    Whoops that was out of order.

  4. DCG says:

    NY Times as your proof? Not exactly a reliable source…Yes we now have a leader that is spreading his idea of fundamentally transforming the US into another socialist country. Superpower no more…

    As for waterboarding, KSM provided information that prevented another terrorist attack. Or would you rather have this again? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg8FQiJ-Rcw

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